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Elementary is Magic by BaldDumboRat Elementary is Magic by BaldDumboRat
I'm sorry but I like Elementary a lot more than Sherlock. I mean substantially a lot more on almost every aspect.
Don't get me wrong, Sherlock is good, but Elementary I feel perfected it.
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:iconwatcher25:
wow... why does that make so much sense for it to be a pony...?
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:icondaiskida:
I'm gonna call ya out on this. I watched the first and second ep of Elementary and found it more Sherlock light, or close to Hipster type of Sherlock. I did like they gave Watson more of a charterer and personality, but I'd say the gender change was rather pointless (since you could have given him just as much character just by keeping him male. An well throwing someone as attractive Lucy Liu there just creates this feeling that she's gonna be a love interest at some point), not helped by having Moriarty be a woman. Since all it does is create this pointless 'romance' subplot between Moriarty and Holmes (which actually comes off kinda sexist when you think about, since the only reason she even goes after Holmes is 'cause she finds the hots for him, in some shape or form. Let's toss out the idea of her having a criminal empire and Sherlock being in her way, or hell having the BBC idea that he was just bored as saw Sherlock as the perfect challenge), and just throwing Watson into the mix. I'll also say the crimes are kinda easy to figure out (Specially since it's aimed at the American audience, I ain't surprised, since least 75% of American viewers need things spelled out for 'em.) I will admit, I find their take on SHerlock interesting, since unlike the BBC version, he isn't a high functioning psychopath but..mm..I guess more ADD or something along those lines. Though, it was head scratching that they decided to leave the "he's a drug addict" which was in the books, but I don't know, that was just kinda..mmm...awkward in a way. I mean, in the books it made sense since he used heroine when he was bored an needed to shut down his brain. I guess what it comes down too, is that Elementary has some interesting stuff, but all in all I'd be hard pressed to say it's better than BBC's Sherlock, since at times Elementary feels like Dr.House solving crimes, while at other times it feels like every other American crime show (CSI, Numbers, Monk an etc). I mean, it's def worth a watch, but I'm still gonna say that BBC Sherlock is least several pages ahead of Elementary.
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:iconlightclueless2:
is this a contest of who has the longest and logical answer?
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:icondaiskida:
I don't know, if there was, maybe i'd get 1st place, or maybe second.
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BaldDumboRat Jan 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Also a more direct response:
"I watched the first and second ep of Elementary"
First problem. You formulated a entire opinion of a show with over 20 episodes by the first 2? You realize in a show like that, things are supposed to start light. Cases are supposed to ease the audience in before tackling the bigger stuff.

"just creates this feeling that she's gonna be a love interest at some point"
This logic is saying because she's female she's going to be a love interest. That has never, and will never be the case. It has been made very clear. In fact, BBC Sherlock has treated it more like a romance than Elementary has. They constantly queerbait the audience and crack gay jokes about Sherlock and Watson and it really degrades the character, in my opinion.

"which actually comes off kinda sexist when you think about, since the only reason she even goes after Holmes is 'cause she finds the hots for him"
Moriarty isn't just Moriarty. She's IRENE ADDLER. She is 'THE Woman', and she's not degraded to being some S&M queen with hardly any actual personality. Also, no, she doesn't like him because 'he's hot'. That's completely rude of you to degrade a character like that just because she's a woman.
She liked him because he was the most intelligent man she had EVER met in her life, and he was drawn to her for the same reason, her baffling and amazing mind. God forbid two people like each other for their personalities, right?
Pretty sure that's how BBC Sherlock showed Irene Addler and Sherlock, they totally had a mental connection- oh wait no it was just a lot of flirting because they found each other hot. Hm. Something's wrong here.

" Let's toss out the idea of her having a criminal empire and Sherlock being in her way"
What are you even talking about? She DOES have a criminal Empire. She has TORN SHERLOCK APART with it. She is dangerous, even in jail, she is 100% capable of manipulation and getting her way. She's managed to break out of top security confinements, keep in contact with her organizations, and she is completely ruthless. She's even stated how mysogynistic people are in assuming all the big criminals have to be male, and has a male representing her in order to make her clients 'more comfortable'.

Sherlock himself just doesn't work for the character either, in BBC I mean. This man is supposed to have a lot of charisma and the ability to make others trust him, he's able to blend in and figure people out easily. A sociopath with aspergers is clearly not capable of this, as they are not able to read other peoples' social queues which I feel is absolutely VITAL to Sherlock Holmes.
With the ADHD version, it feels more accurate because while he can fully understand what people are doing, he doesn't know why, nor does he know how to be like them. He can pretend without being a hammy actor, he does have a heart, but he just doesn't level with these people at all.
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:icondaiskida:
A. I doubt it'll get any better as this trainwreck goes on, if the 1st and 2nd case are soe asy to solve, then others will be on levels of finding out the villain in Scooby-Doo

B. That's kinda the whole point, the two are very close friends (though in this day and age thinking of two guys being very close friends and consdering that gay, is kinda dumb), and also it's not logic, it's how formulaic this is, and so far I've yet to be proven wrong when it comes to. Frankly, there was no point to have her be a female, again this same stuff could have been done y even a male character. But oh wait, we have Lucy Liu (yeah, great choice, the same chick who was in such 'classics' as Charlies Angels 1-2 and the Cleaner.), so claiming at some point they won't be a romance between 'em is laughable as hell.

C. I don't give a damn if she's the Queen of England herself, the very idea of there being ANY romance between the two is a massive load of crap. I honestly wanna find the prick who came up with this and smack him across the head, you wanna have a female Moriarty? Fine (oh yeah, great idea Irene Adler, a character who barely had anything in the books as well, yeah great choice) but you can do it without having the whole 'oh she likes him' bs. Hell, just by having Sherlock be a threat to her organization would be enough, but nooooo! Let's toss in the 'she likes him, because she's smart like her' why not.

D.Oh huzzah, and while we're at it, let's add the "Women are power!" thing, haven't seen that ina  while and then see that quickly get shot in a nearby allyeway.

Oooo..Sherlock has a heart, I suddenly care. Oh wait, that's me trying not to laugh at that statement. As I recall, Sherlock never had a heart, or showed much emotion aside from solving cases and finding a puzzle worthy of his time. He was fully de-tached from people and everyday normal life. An guess what, BBC Sherlock gave that, while Elementary turned into a laughable soap opera.
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BaldDumboRat Jan 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That is your opinion, now stop smearing it in my face like feces.

I like Sherlock AND Elementary, I just happen to like one more than the other. There is not a problem with that, as it is my own personal preference.

I have every right to enjoy what I want to, and I thoroughly enjoy almost any and all forms of interpretations of Sherlock Holmes. (Except that god awful point and click game with magic and crap)

So if you excuse me, I have some Great Mouse Detective to watch.
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:icondaiskida:
Yeah, I'm sorry I apologized a few posts back for my outburst, but well gonna bring my apologize again. So yeah, please forgive me.

Speaking of the point and click game, it wouldn't be the one called "Return of Moriarty", would it?
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BaldDumboRat Jan 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nah, that was Hound of Baskervilles, but they probably did more. It's just bad all around. Bad acting, super easy laughable puzzles even on hard mode, Sherlock just kinda going "Oh, that's magic, we're time traveling, I'll uhhh, explain that later" and then never explaining it... sfdsafdfsdggsdfgs.

I guess another reason I'm so miffed over this issue is because I plan to write something for this image you see, a full episode, and I am so nervous that I'm going to get all the BBC Sherlock fans down my throat because I happen to love something they don't understand. I really want to show my skill as a writer and as a fan of criminal investigation (As a child I studied forensics all the time, along with psychology) and I just don't want people to toss me aside in favor of BBC Sherlock. When in reality, I am just a fan of Sherlock Holmes in general, in most media forms and for most audiences, be it adult, readers, children, Americans, etc.
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:icondaiskida:
Huh, and here I thought a game where Moriarty comes back from the dead thanks to dark magic was dumb, well ya learn something new each day.

Hmmmm....Well, I can only tell ya what I told one of me mates who was writing a story himself, and was worried bout fans getting down his throat: The best ya can do is just go on with your project and ignore all those tossers, 'cause not all fans are arseholes, some might not like the source material, but enjoy the story itself, or even getting interested enough to check said source material and find out if they'll like it or not.

Just my five cents on this topic, you can take it or leave it *shrug*. Frankly, I'm interested to read it, even with me not being a big fan of Elementary.
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